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tiny embryo, no hearbeat at 6 weeks
Posted by expat2006 (469 days ago)
Hi all, wanted to know if anyone has been for their first ultrasound at 6 weeks and found no heartbeat. Most ladies on the site have and yesterday I went in for the first scan. The doc did an abdominal as well as a vaginal, and asked me to come back in 10 days time. The embryo looked tiny and no heartbeat of course. I have had a M/C the last time because the embryo was not growing and doc suggested D&C. This time to my knowledge the embryo looks even smaller at about this time last time. Appreciate your inputs.
(I am based in Singapore)
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Posted by cara (469 days ago)
i had an u/s @ 6 weeks, but to be honest, i can't remember what it was like.
i wish you the best of luck!
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Babeez (469 days ago)
I had the vaginal at an early stage but i don't think we 'saw' a heartbeat till 8 weeks. 6 weeks still seems early, maybe just hang in there for a couple more weeks. I am one of those pregnant mums that want an ultrasound everyday just to make sure the baby is ok..in terms of hearing the heartbeat, we heard ours i think at around 12 weeks. I know you must be especialy sensitive due to your last miscarriage but try to stay positive. When the doc couldn't hear our baby's heartbeat the first time, i actually tried to focus on anything other than things to do with babies and it seemed to make the time go faster. Wish you and your baby lots of luck!
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by expat2006 (469 days ago)
Thanks Babeez. Makes me a bit relieved to know that you saw the heartbeat at 8 and heard it by 12 weeks. That gives me some benchmark for myself. The doc I went to gave me a lecture instead of comforting me and I am glad I can find that here. I will try and keep a positive attitude - just that the worry is constantly there. Anyway... just want to get through that first stage. Thanks again for your message.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by hkchoichoi (469 days ago)
there is a range as to WHEN you will see a heartbeat - depending on when ACTUAL implantation happens. My father (an OBGYN), during my third round of pregnancy - told me just to wait until 8 weeks before I even bothered getting my first scan. The first and main reason being that although someone DO see heartbeats as early as 5.5 weeks - not everyone does, and so there was no need for me to get worked up with an ultrasound that may or may NOT show a heartbeat. However, by EIGHT WEEKS, there definitely should be a heartbeat - for me - at my first exam at 8 weeks - I heard the heartbeat as well.
(I am based in Unspecified)
Posted by expat2006 (469 days ago)
Thanks HKCC. Coming from you, it is a valuable advise. I was told too by my GP to wait until 7-8 weeks. I think it is just my own nervousness, especially after I searched all the threads and found most to find one by the 6th week. The next two weeks will be a bit hard for me to go through, but with your advise and Babeez's words, it should help me relax a bit. Thanks once again.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by LAPM (469 days ago)
Expat2006 - I really feel for you as I know how hard it is when you stress about things in pregnancy. I have had my fair share of worries. I really don't think you should worry at this early stage - in the Uk you don't have your 1st scan until 12 weeks as before this time it is too likely that you won't be able to see a heartbeat, and like yourself it stresses the mum out! I had all my scans at 12 weeks and compared to my friend who had a scan at 10 weeks the baby looked so completely different - even though her scan was only 2 weeks before mine the baby was so much smaller.
I am thinking of you in the next couple of weeks because I know it is so hard not to think about it every minute of the day - it's almost like you are in limbo, life has stopped until you know everything is ok.
Take care
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by expat2006 (468 days ago)
Dear LAPM, your words and care have given me a lot of strength. I will keep you posted about the result for sure. You are right - all I want to now know is that everything is Ok and I can carry on from the time I know this. And even with a full time work, because this is more important to me, my attention doesn't divert at all from the nagging thought. Anyway. It is nice to find so much comfort on this chatline. Thank you so much for your kind words.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by MayC (468 days ago)
expat2006, the same thing happened to me with my first pregnancy. I got REALLY worried too. I was supposed to be 6+ weeks pregnant when I saw my dr and she could not detect a hearbeat from the tummy ultrasound nor the transvaginal ultrasound. She could only see the sac. I was frightened because from what I read, heartbeats SHOULD be seen at 6 weeks on. I was told to come back 1.5 weeks later and lo and behold, we saw a heartbeat!! Dr said that I must have ovulated a week later than I thought.
For my next, I'm not going to see a doctor until Week 8. Not worth it to do it before hand with all those unnecessary scares.....
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by mscheerful (468 days ago)
Yes, wait till 8 weeks and you should be able to see the heartbeat from the ultrasound. I saw mine a little earlier than 8 weeks thru' transviginal. My sister in-law did not also see at 7+ weeks, dr. said the same thing as said to you. She waited for another week to go back again, now, she had just given birth to a healthy little girl! Dr. had to push the EDD two weeks later.
You are having a healthy baby!
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by babybemine (468 days ago)
Expat2006, just wanted to say congratulations (even though it is a bit early) as I remember you saying you have been trying for a while. Best wishes!
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by mrsl (468 days ago)
expat2006, can understand your apprehension, but try to relax (easier said that done). Detected heartbeat by 6 weeks on the first 2, but not until after 7 weeks on the 3rd. I've also had a history of m/cs, so can really relate to how long the 10 day wait feels. Will keep my fingers and toes crossed for you.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by expat2006 (468 days ago)
Hi ladies, thank you all so very much for the support and so many wonderful ways to give me comfort.
MayC, I follow your inputs on this chatline quite frequently. I wish you too the very best for #2.
MsCheerful, It is comforting to find similar stories of experience from your sister. Helps me put my own situation in context.
Thanks for your good wishes Babybemine. Yesh, it has been a long battle and I am not sure if I have won yet.
Lastly, mrs, thanks for your support. Sorry to hear of your m/c in the past, but in some senses, it is good to derive some words of strength from someone who has been there.
My check-up is now scheduled for the 28th. Long wait - necessary all the same as you have all suggested, yet such a wierd stage.
All I can say is a big Thank You. With all your good wishes, it will probably be all ok. Will surely keep you all posted.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by mscheerful (466 days ago)
expat2006, i've pm u.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by expat2006 (465 days ago)
Hi MsCheerful, thanks for PM me. I am so sorry though that I haven't yet been able to check as I have forgotten the mail ID I registered with. I had created a new mail for this forum with yahoo and because I don't use it, I can no longer remember what it is. I have asked ED to help and hopefully I will be able to access it. Please bear with me until then. So sorry though.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by mscheerful (465 days ago)
it is ok.. I wanted to send you a book to read, just want to ask whether do you like/enjoy reading. I had 2 very similar case like yours few years back. It is heart breaking but if you don't give up, due season always come! Mine came beginning of the year.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Foolonahill (464 days ago)
expat2006, you don't need to know your mail passord. Just go to 'control panel' on asiaxpat, and you will/should see a mail message waiting for you.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by expat2006 (464 days ago)
Thanks Foolonahill. Never knew that until you told me so. Thank you so much for that. Will read the messages now.
Cheers
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by expat2006 (453 days ago)
Hi all, just came back from the doc and my second pregnancy is also not going well and I will have to go for another D&C. Thank you very much for all your support. I think I will take some time off this forum as it is quite painful for me. Wish you all the very best for your hopes and dreams of a baby.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by Wheelymate (453 days ago)
dear expat2006,
i read your thread the first time you posted it. i am very sorry to hear about your loss.
i understand it is very painful for you emotionally so take time to heal. and when you are ready, you know many on this forum are around to hear you out.
good luck.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by Babeez (453 days ago)
Expat 2006,
So sorry to hear about your loss. You will be in my prayers and may your dreams of having a baby come true soon too.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Babeez (453 days ago)
Expat 2006,
So sorry to hear about your loss. You will be in my prayers and may your dreams of having a baby come true soon too.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by babybemine (453 days ago)
Expat2006, I'm so sorry to hear this news. It must be so difficult.Please take good care of yourself and lots of rest.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Havefaith (453 days ago)
Expat 2006,
So sorry to hear about your loss. I will pray for you and wish that you will have a LOL soon.
Do take care of yourself and try not to think about too much now!
HF
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by cara (453 days ago)
i'm so sorry.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by MayC (452 days ago)
expat2006, I'm really sorry... I was just thinking about you yesterday and wondering how you've been.
We'll be here to listen if you need to talk. Be strong, okay?
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by spare_rib_hk (444 days ago)
expat2006...I have sent you mail.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by expat2006 (390 days ago)
Hi ladies, hope you are all doing well. I have had my first period after M/C and I am back on the TTC track. You have all been very kind to me and I thought of thanking you for your kind words. I haven't yet followed up on the TTC 1 & 2 threads to know what is happening with you all. To be honest, I haven't yet found the courage to be here or even start that whole charting and testing game again. I am ready to try, but scared to fail.
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by Starbucks2 (390 days ago)
expat2006 - thanks for the update. Keep smiling and keep trying. It will happen for you too I am sure.
Take care
SB2
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Havefaith (390 days ago)
Expat2006,
Glad to hear that you are feeling better. It is a tough road - lets do it together.
HF
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by expat2006 (389 days ago)
Dear SB2, thanks for that confidence. It is so good for someone to have that confidence, as my own is dwindling. How is your bub coming along? Many many best wishes to you.
Hey HF, what can I say, I derive all my faith from you. You have such a wonderful attitude. I really wish for the very best for you. That plane I have a feeling is ready for you for your next trip. I somehow feel it in my heart. I read about your M/C. I am so sorry to hear that HF. Big jungle hugs coming your way. We'll get there. Glad to have such determined ladies together with me.
Lotsa love...
(I am based in Singapore)

Posted by Starbucks2 (389 days ago)
Thanks expat2006 - things are going ok so far. Had the 20 week scan (which was where the problem was picked up in my last pregnancy) and all looking ok. I almost cried while the doc was scanning - every time he looked like he was taking too long (in my layman view) reviewing a particular organ - so stressful. I think once you have had some traumatic times before (as you, HF, I and many others) it really makes you realise what a miracle the whole process is although it also turns you in to an even bigger worrier than your average pregnant lady! As a result, although doc says all looking fine so far, it will not stop me worrying for the remaining 20 weeks until the babe is here and is checked over. Has meant that I am finally wearing maternity clothes at work though (which make me look bigger than I am) because I am not afraid to tell people now.
I truly believe that it will happen for all of us but that the bumps along the way make it all the more treasured when it does happen. There are a few of us on this site who have been through similiar experiences to you and I am sure will be more than willing to share these if you think it will help. The ladies on this site were a great comfort to me when I was dealing with the aftermath of the induced labour of my dear wee daughter at 20 weeks along earlier this year. Still brings a tear to my eye that we lost her but we won't forget her.
All the best
SB2
(I am based in Hong Kong)

Posted by expat2006 (389 days ago)
Hi SB2, that is wonderful news to know that all is ok. I can imagine how overwhelming it is. I also agree that this whole process is such a miracle and one that nature is fully in control. It isn't any illness that you can prevent or any remedy. We are completely in nature's hands and it does the very best for us. I also understand when you say that you won't ever forget your 20 week bub. Once again, I am so sorry for your loss. I keep telling myself that the first child I lost would be out by now and come April, the second one is going to make me feel this way as well. It feels good to share all the same and to get the understanding from those who have been through the same thing.
Here is wishing you all the very best and tons of love to the little one.
Until again...
(I am based in Singapore)
Posted by Havefaith (389 days ago)
expat2006,
Thank you for saying that you derived your faith from me - I feel very honoured.
I know what you mean - I was thinking the same thing in April this year. I am sure I will feel sadness comes May next year.
I remember I once read somewhere "That we should pray not for an easy life but to be a strong person". I sometimes think that someone is testing us - if we pass the test we will end up with our little BUBs.
I do so want to be on the next plane out - I do also wish to be with you, Linlin and everyone else who has gone thru so much.
Lots of babydust to you all!
HF
(I am based in Hong Kong)
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